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  • Nov. 5th, 2008 at 7:42 PM
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i am really really sad. i have to tell you. i just thought there was no way the gay marriage ban would pass. i just absolutley can not believe that people who live on this planet together can be so hatefull and horrible to each other. i actually cried. i know im lame but this stuff really makes me loose faith in humanity. can someone tell me how this could happen. would someone who voted for this please resopond and tell me why you voted for it. you can even PM me if you want. i wont get mad at you i promise. i just want to know if there is a reason beside "i dont like gay people" or "the bible says gays are bad".

i normally have blinders on to the terrible things people do around the world. i cant even watch the news. i can not spend any amount of time pondering what is occouring in other countries. i have to tell myself people are all basicly good on the inside maybe they just dont know any better. maybe that guy sitting down while some old lady wth a cane stands was never taught to give up his seat. he cant really be THAT selfish and self absorbed. and maybe people really think its better to keep a dog in their posession, even if its starving while being chained to a tree in their back yard, than sending it to the pound where it might get put down. and maybe tomorrow people waring all over the world will realise that there really can be a peacefull resolutin to their problems and every one will set down their guns. i cant look at al this stuff and not want to crawl into bed and die because i am just one small tiny insignificant speck in the world and what can i do about it? politicians and government are corrupt, religion has been twisted to hate, and the world frankly is a bleak place. so i spend a good portion of my life in denial and am in the dark about alot of stuff on purpose because i quite litterally can not deal with or process the cruelty in the world.

and i really really thought that for once people would do the right and loving thing for other people. how can more love and more commitment be bad for anyone? would the same people who didnt want gay people to get married say black people and white people cant date? would they say handicapped people and non handicapped people cant get married? and not only that but this isnt a few religious nutbags! this is a MAJORITY of the people that voted. that means a higher percentage of people in this world hate and are cruel to each other than are loving and kind to each other. this is hard proof that no mattter what i tell myself about most people inthe world being good kind people, i am wrong. a majority of people are haters.

im gonna go crawl in a hole and die now.

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[info]lezlishae wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
:(

I'm really sad about all of the gay marriage type of things being passed.

And one thing that I keep hearing from people on my f-list is that they can't believe that these ridiculous things are passing. I can't believe it, but at the same time I know I am living in a nice little liberal bubble that exists on my f-list. My f-list is made up of awesome people that (mostly) share my same views, so its really hard to look out into the outside world and see that people aren't as tolerant. *giant sadface*
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:07 am (UTC)
i think you are right. i surround myself with kind and awesome people because then its easy to forget the world in general sucks. hahaha well thats not EXACTLY what you said but its true none the less. thanks for feeling my pain
[info]ofenjen wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:09 am (UTC)
Ah hon, *squishes*

I feel the same way a lot of the time. The only thing we can do is keep being the best people we can be and keep loving as much as we can and vote every chance we get.

The same thing happened in my home state not so long ago and I was embarrassed and mortified, but not surprised. Some things are so ingrained in people, they don't even realize that there might be another way to live or another way to love unless by some miracle their eyes are opened.
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:23 am (UTC)
yes but what good does it even do to vote if a majority of the populace really is horrid. how does something like this even make it to a point where people GET to vote. why doesnt one of those people in washington look at that and go "um no. remember black only bathrooms? uuuhhhh. same thing."
[info]ofenjen wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 12:29 pm (UTC)
That's the reason you keep voting and keep believing. Eventually someone will figure it out, and then more people will and then it will be so obvious that people will be smacking themselves on the heads wondering how they ever thought otherwise.
[info]calypsobard wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
I really had a lot of faith that CA wouldn't pass prop 8. I was well and truly shocked that it passed. I was sad that it was even on the ballot to begin with! With everything else to worry about in the world, peopel are worried with who someone else is sleeping with or whom they love.

I've been wallowing in my own hole this evening for a mulitude of reasons and now i'm really really sad thinking about poor puppies. If both of mine weren't finally cslm i'd give them great big hugs.

Look at your kitty and think of how wonderful she is and if she's in it, the world isn't that bad :D (a friend of mine said that after 9/11 about her cat. )
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:42 am (UTC)
oh sorry didnt men to make you sad about puppies. and i tried to go pick up my cat on your suggestion and she got all enticingly close then hissed at me and ran away! hussy. hahahaha. dont worry shell be sleepin on my face later. thats how i know she loves me. near suffocation every night. :0)
[info]calypsobard wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:51 am (UTC)
hey i have a cat like that!! :D
[info]usqueba wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:36 am (UTC)
The ACLU is challenging Prop 8. There's hope!
[info]beekerzwhirled wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:45 am (UTC)
but that's only in CA... there was also an amendment in FL that banned gay marriages with over 60%. i'm so mad at my former state!
[info]usqueba wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
but that's only in CA

Yup. I'm in L.A. so that's what news I'm getting.
[info]lezlishae wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 12:43 pm (UTC)
It wasn't so much that they were banning gay marriages in Florida, because gay marriage is already illegal here. It was that they were making it even more illegal and taking rights away from couples who aren't married. So if two old people (hetero couple) are together, they no longer have rights as a couple. This is also the same for people who had commonlaw marriages.

Crazy Florida people saw all of the signs (and trust me there were a TON) that made it all about marriage and people took it as such. Research has shown that the more information people got about #2 the less they liked it. Not enough people did their research on it, so that is why it passed.
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)
good to know that hate is not just gliding by and that someone who can do something about it is...doing something about it. did that make sense to you or just in my head?
[info]beekerzwhirled wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:44 am (UTC)
i cannot agree more. i currently work with 1 lesbian who has been "married" (stupid laws won't let it be legal) to her girlfriend for 7 years. and when i lived in FL, i was one of the few few hetero people in the company of about 120. how this ban could have passed is seriously beyond me.. both in CA and FL. i don't understand what is wrong with people! i really think that it's a lot of nuts out there who are scared of things different. cuz really, i can't fathom any other reason for this happening.

*hugs*
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:11 am (UTC)
thanks for the solidarity and the hug. does solidarity mean what i think it does?... yes i think it does. like being on the same page right? well if not you know what i mean. sheesh i should be blonde AND ANOTHER thing i dont believe blond people should be allowed to marry! haha princess di was an abomonation!
[info]cass_errol wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:55 am (UTC)
It is really sad too. I have gay, lesbian and transgender friends and I'm really sad for them. I figure if someone wants to get married, by all means do it.
My step-mother made me want to hit her the other day when she told me that she stopped watching what she referred to as "Gay's Anatomy" because of the current story line. Narrow minded people are one of the most frustrating types out there.
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:14 am (UTC)
but this means that narrow minded people are the majority of people! i can not get over it. but thanks for the thoughts. all my friend comming to share really IS making me feel better. even if it isnt fixing the fact that people are stupid and mean. at least you guys are nice. im keepin you.
[info]lell wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
The step-mother can stop worrying -- Grey's Anatomy fired Brooke Smith, de-gayed a character coming onto the show, and eradicated the lesbian storyline completely. *rolls eyes* I mean, it was a poorly written storyline, but...really, ABC? Really?

I'm sorry that Prop 8 passed. I didn't even know it had -- LA news is a bit far from New York -- and I'd just assumed it hadn't because, well, duh. It's stupid. Anybody I can kick to make you feel better, Pren? I have amazing kicking power. And I'm for hire. Like a kicking assassin. You get free kicking privileges. I may even rock out my awesome scarf while I kick people for you.
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 09:26 pm (UTC)
hahaha. you are funny. i just spent an dhour look online for a clip from a dirty jobs episode to pst with this and i cant find anything about it damn it. it was an episode where he goes and removes the fighting teeth from a llama and in the process the llama kicks out. like the fastest kick you ever saw and mike rowe goes "its like a lazer! all i saw was a blur of yarn!" or something like that. it was really funny and i had this vision of you kicking like that and it was even funnier. god i wish i could have found a clip. youd have died!
[info]lell wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
Dude, they didn't call me Lightning Foot McQueen for nothing.

Or at all, actually.

I really want to see this clip now. Removing the fighting teeth from a llama? That's worth the price of the ticket on its own!! *writes down the blur of yarn line for future use*
(Anonymous) wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:23 am (UTC)
*hugs* I agree. I was upset all day. We spent the day in the office going back and forth between being excited for Obama and upset about 8. Hopefully the ACLU and others will be victorious in the end.
[info]divinite wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:26 am (UTC)
Odd...don't know why that showed up anonymous.
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 05:32 am (UTC)
*snort* i was just wondering who that was posted by. haha. i temped today and it was very very quiet at the front desk so maybe i had too much time to stew in my own thoughts but its good to hear that it was being talked about in other offices.
[info]llightfoot wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 06:10 am (UTC)
Solidarity--unity of like interests, or something like that.

can someone tell me how this could happen.

Well, this happened for 2 reasons:

1. The nutcases who go to those crazy black churches that won't let the children trick-or-treat because of the devil all turned out to vote for Obama. Also, the CA democratic party is heavily latino. You can't underestimate how pervasive the influence of the Catholic church is south of the border. I don't know if you've ever discussed homosexuality with someone hispanic with an accent (born in the US is a whole different story) but I've had many arguments about gay issues with such people, and in my experience, the women respond along the lines of, "that's just unnatural and disgusting," and the men react along the lines of "If I meet a homosexual, I will kill him." And no, I'm not remotely joking, I've heard that response more than once.

2. People are highly susceptible to propaganda, and they go a little bonkers whenever you argue "for the children," so the "gay porn will be required curriculum in public schools at the kindergarten level if Prop 8 doesn't pass" ads were highly effective.
[info]archerpren wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 06:20 am (UTC)
hmmm. points to ponder. especially that #2. i just wanted to die when i heard that on the radio. who talks about marriage in school and i especially loved the part where they say a teacher took her students to a gay marriage ceremony as a learning expierience. what the heck. do you remember a teacher ever taking YOU to a wedding. or talking about marriage in school. and with all the lawsuits. even if they did go to a wedding the parents had to know about it and siggnd their kids life a way to let them go on the field trip in the first place so whats the damn problem?
[info]calypsobard wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
And don't forget the other very important arguments like if we allow gay marrige, the next thing you know people will be allowed to married children and animals.

So says the Bible Belt.
Amen and Amen.

Of course Harry Potter leads to the same death and destruction as well...
[info]llightfoot wrote:
Nov. 6th, 2008 03:22 pm (UTC)
Well, I saw almost nothing of those arguments during this election cycle, and don't think it had much to do with why Prop 8 passed. And yes, I do follow the arguments of the other side very carefully.